Trying to figure out what point the anti-gunners are trying to make here …

The Montreal Gazette has an article on the Canadian Parliament move to end their disastrous long gun registration scam — you know, the one that cost a billion dollars and did nothing to reduce crime — and in it they take the various common anti-gun control arguments and do a replacement of “car” for “gun” and believe it somehow means something. Anti-gunner Mike B.  even points to it as though it’s not an exercise in idiocy, which prompts the question: Do anti-gun people even try to think these things through?

As you can see, when you read the article, sometimes the replacement of “gun” with “car” produces gibberish, and at other times it just proves the pro-gun logic. Just more proof on how out of touch the anti’s are. In any case, it just amazes me that anyone allowed all of these silly examples to actually be published. (NOTE: MikeB is is referring to a blog post from Laci, but I can’t even open her site without feeling I need a shower, whereas after reading Mike’s site I just feel as though I’ve been grading the homework from a 3rd grade special ed logic class)

All of these arguments I have found myself before pasting them here, so it’s not really a quote at all, which is why I’m using so much of it:

Cars don’t kill people, people kill people.
Do Canadians think that cars do kill people? Do Canadians think the Stephen King Movie/Book Christine is a documentary? Cars don’t kill people. Guns don’t kill people. The only machines that kill people are the fictional demonic vehicle Christine and the hunter/killer machines we see in Terminator. And I believe the former is possessed so really it’s the demon and not the machine in that case ;-) .

Criminals won’t register their cars, they’ll just go out and steal them or smuggle them in.
Correct. There are many people driving unlicensed vehicles in Colorado, particularly illegal aliens (ask any Cop) and many more (about 30%) do not get the legally mandated insurance.

Forcing me to keep my car and car keys separate when I’m not using them is dumb. What if there’s a coyote in my field and I have to run into the house to get my keys so I can go run the coyote over? By the time I get my keys, he’ll be gone. Yet if I leave my keys in the car and some kid steals it and kills someone with it, they think I’m the one acting irresponsibly! That’s crazy!
To some extent the above is gibberish, because anyone who takes their car out to kill a coyote in a field is stupid. But yes … if a kid steals your car and acts irresponsibly with it they are the one being the criminal, no matter where your keys are or how stupid you were about security. But in any case there is no law about keeping keys out of cars, even though doing otherwise is stupid. But it’s not like anybody wants to leave their guns sitting in the driveway fully loaded overnight. We just want to make the decision on how to keep our guns secure, rather than a law which doesn’t take anything of our particular situation into account and says we have to take the weapon apart and store it in a particular way. Just like we don’t want a law that says we have to remove the spark plugs from our car every night because somebody might steal it and go for a joy ride.

90% of car crimes are committed with sporty cars, not trucks, so why should truck owners by forced to register their vehicles?
The purpose of car registration was never to end crimes with cars, it was to bring money in for cars used on public streets. If car registration was to end car crime, and 90% of crimes were committed with truckss, then wouldn’t it make sense to only force registration of trucks? But in any case, car registration is a revenue issue. Gun registration isn’t a revenue issue, it’s a control issue.

The car registry penalizes the majority of vehicle owners, who are law abiding citizens, by imposing bureaucratic procedures and fees on them, as well as making them vulnerable to prosecution for failing to register their cars.
Again … car registration is for revenue, and law-abiding people pay revenue as well as anyone else. More than every one else. Duh.

If a lunatic decides to take a bunch of people out, it really won’t matter to him whether or not the car is registered.
Well … yeah. And again, duh. Does anyone think there’s someone out there who wants to take their car and drive it into a crowd of school children but haven’t done it because the car is licensed in their name?

It’s not the fear of registering cars, it’s the cost for each car, plus the hassle you have to go through. Plus you have to take a driver safety course in order to get a permit to drive the car. I’ve been driving without a license all my life, why should I have to take a safety course? My dad taught me everything I need to know.
Do you have to get a new license/take training for every new car you buy in Canada? It is a hassle to register something whether it’s a gun or a car. With cars we have to do it for revenue generation and to pay for the roads the cars drive on. What infrastructure is it we need for people to own guns? They travel in our cars in the same cars that we license to pay for the roads. Just plain stupid.

The original cost of implementing the registry was estimated at approximately $120 million, with most of the costs being covered by registration fees. Subsequent reviews, however, have shown the actual cost to be closer to $2 billion.
How about you don’t keep throwing good money after bad? The $2 billion is gone, who throw another $2 billion after it?

As a note … I’ve always been a fan of the since you register cars you should register guns in the same way argument. Because I’d be fine with that. Because the thing is … you don’t HAVE to register a car to buy a car. I can buy as many cars as I want for my property in the mountains, and I have to pay sales tax but I don’t have to register or license them. Or have a driver’s license to drive them on anybody’s private property where I have the owner’s permission. Or even to transport them on city streets so long as I’m not driving them (i.e. on a trailer). And I can own any car I can afford to drive.

So … if Federal gun laws were reduced so that I could buy absolutely any gun I wanted, full auto or whatever, shoot it, transport it, but just not carry it loaded in public unless I got an easily obtainable shall-issue registration and license for that one particular gun … yeah. That wouldn’t be bad at all. I’d take it if it would end all the anti-gun crap.

Anti-gun people are just funny. They live in such a different world that they think comparisons like the one above somehow prove their viewpoint. I guess that’s why they’re still losing more than they’re winning.

So carry on anti-gun people. You’re doing JUST FINE!!!! ;-)

1 comment to Trying to figure out what point the anti-gunners are trying to make here …

  • Funny to see the antis use a car analogy when antis like MikeB302000 deny it is a valid comparison.

    What I find hilarious is the intentional support for the gun as a tool argument. It doesn’t make sense to kill a coyote with a car — only because it is an inefficient tool for that purpose. Once again, they show that any tool can be used to kill.

    If you haven’t read LawDog’s excellent take on the car/firearm comparison, here it is

    http://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2007/04/we-license-cars-yackyackyack.html

    Well worth the read.
    Great post sir